
Tanya Morozova-White
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Protagonists
in order of appearance
Tanya (Tatyana) Morozova-White
Tanya:They say "Chechens" to spread,
expand our pain, as it were, instead of focusing
on the specifics, on the task of finding the culprits.
Akhmed Zakaev: I understand a person
who carries that pain inside, and the need for answers.
We are all children of God, even if we
believe in different ways...
Please do not blame us Chechens!
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Sasha White |
Sasha White, Tanya’s son
Tanya: He does not even know about it, but he has Russian history
in his blood. And that is a connection to the history of Russia. The way
we, my sister and I will present it to him, Russia’s past, our mother’s
past - will probably have an impact on his whole future life. He may love
Russia, or he may hate it… Of couse, I don’t want him to hate
it…
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Yelena Morozova |
Yelena (Alyona) Morozova, her sister
Tanya: Alyona went through so much, she saw so much. You can’t
just kick it out of your head. That’s why she can’t sleep
or sees these nightmares. I think until her last day she will see them
Alyona:There aren't many people
trying to find out the truth.
Those who suffered, like me, who were injured
and lost limbs and so on...
They just want to forget about it:
the sooner the better.
Alyona:I long for the perpetrators to be
caught, I really do.
We're not just puppets for playing war games with...
It's not on simply to say:"Some people died, too bad,
we'll put up a new building."We all have feelings.
Well, obviously some don't...
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Lubov Morozova |
Lubov Morozova, their mother †
Alyona: I could suddenly see through the wall, there
was just an empty space, and I knew that that's where my mother should
have been.
Tanya: I have not seen her sick, I have
not seen her sad. I feel like she is still alive. It’s just a hard
thing - you miss her, and you can’t talk to her.
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Abraham White |
Abraham White, Tanya’s husband, a restaurant
chef in Milwaukee, Wis.
Tanya: I lost my mom and with her I lost my Russia. So as hard
as I could I started to build a new home, and now I have my husband, I have
Sasha, and, well, that’s enough for me. If I have a little Russia
it is right here, in my heart, and if somebody will want to take this last
bit away, they will have to take it right from my heart, with my life.
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Jeff L. Kinney |
Jeff L. Kinney, CNN videographer and producer
who helped Alyona after the bombing Tanya:
Jeff went on the Internet to find our adress and our phone number. He
called me and said, Alyona is with some friends, call her on this number;
I said, what is this, a joke? No, he said, it’s not a joke, it’s
an emergency.
Jeff: The way the Americans view Chechens changed
on Sept.11th. On Sept.10th Americans thought that these were poor people
abused by the Russians; on the Sept.12th Chechens became Muslim terrorists
DEALT WITH ACCORDINGLY BY the Russians for the safety of the rest of the
world.
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Svetlana Rozhkova |
Svetlana (Sveta) Rozhkova, Tanya’s
friend and former neighbor, who lost her parents in the attack.
Nobody can give us our parents back.
I've tried to subdue these feelings.
What can we do? We have to carry on living in this country.
Finding out the truth won't make it less hard.
Sometimes I'm afraid. And sometimes I get really annoyed
because we weren't more on the ball, somehow.
But I have to carry on living here.
You have to get on with your parents whatever they're like.
And it's the same with your country: it's the only one you've got.
I'm talking about these things now because it really hurts.
And maybe I'm afraid of finding out the truth,
because the truth might be even worse than what's happened...
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Michail Trepashkin |
Michail
Trepashkin, Tanya’s and Alyona’s lawyer in Moscow who was
arrested after finding evidence of FSB’s involvement in the bombing
Michail Trepashkin :
The KGB had a huge political section, yes.
And it's interesting to note that the people who now occupy
the top positions in the FSB are the same ones
who used to be responsible for political prosecutions:
ex-members of the KGB's notorious Section 5.
According
to the article 7 of the Secrecy law crimes resulting
in large numbers of deaths cannot be kept secret.
What would happen if the results of the investigation were made public?
It's simple: all those involved
in these crimes would be arrested.
The question is: Who would that hurt?
Tahya: Are you not afraid? By persisting in your
investigations you are putting your own life on the line!
Michail: Well, what can I say... I have
a cause and I believe it is just. Even my own former colleagues from the
FSB will testify that I’ve never deceived or betrayed anyone. So
I am in peace with myself.
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David Satter |
David Satter,
scholar,former Moscow correspondent for The Wall Street Journal
and New York Times who wrote a book arguing that the bombing was
staged by the Russian secret service, the FSB.
Some people say I haven’t proven it, I can’t prove it. Well,
I say, this is a little bit of a perversion of the venerable Anglo-Saxon
doctrine of presumption of innocence. Presumption of innocence is intended
to protect the individual against the government. It doesn’t apply
to a government which is suspected of a mass crime against its own population.
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Timur Dakhkilgov |
Timur Dakhkilgov, a Muscovite from Chechnya who
confessed to the bombing under torture but was released when the case fell
apart.
Lidia: I wanted to go out onto the streets
and cry out: "He's innocent!" I can swear
on the health of my children, on the most sacred things!"
Lidia: Timur doesn't like talking about these things.
He doesn't even want to remember.
Timur: I did my army service
at Baiconur cosmodrome, did special training...
But I've never heard the word "hexogen" in my life...
Timur: sometimes I think, what if they hadn't been proven wrong?
I would have been locked up for life. Simple as that.
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Lidia Dakhkilgov |
Lidia Dakhkilgov, Timur’s wife
Lidia:
It all started with fingerprints, we had to submit them - because we were
born in Grozny. They said: "fingerprints are taken in the whole
civilized world."
"Maybe," I said, "but is it done only to people with certain
kinds of facial features, as a kind of face control? What's wrong
with his face or mine?" Then the lawyer told me:
"He's about to make a confession."
But how can that be if your conscience is clear?
The lawyer said:"They have their methods."
I then found out how they were pressuring him:
I was pregnant at the time with our third boy.
So they told him they'd take me and our kids
to Gurianov Street, to that crowd, those people
whose families were killed, and tell them, "Here's the wife
of the man who blew up the building."
And Timur would have to sit in a car and watch the crowd deal with me.
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Alexandra Mingaleva |
Alexandra Mingaleva, Tanya’s grandmother
who lives in a village in the Urals, Russia
May she rest in peace. And be eternally remembered.
May Lubov, God's child, rest in peace! Let's drink to her memory!
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Vladimir Mingalev |
Vladimir Mingalev, Tanya’s grand-father
How did our Luba get from the Urals to Moscow?
She was a hairdresser.
She found out that there was a special hairdressing college
in Moscow.
And she wrote them a letter.
And they offered her a place, and so she went to Moscow.
And that brought Moscow closer to us.
And now it's far away again, and we no longer have anybody there.
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Sergei Mingalev |
Sergei Mingalev, Tanya’s uncle
And as for the people involved,
had they been ordinary people, Chechens,
they would've been caught straight away.
But there are bigger fish involved,
that's why it's taking so long.
Until none of the powers-that-be die, or... this one...
doesn't get kicked out... nothing will happen.
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Alyona Kozhevnikova |
Alyona Kozhevnikova, a friend of Tanya’s
late mother (the White Russian)
I don’t believe it was the FSB that organized the 1999 bombings.
Nor I believe that the Chechens are innocent victims. PEACE IN THE CAUCASUS
HAS ALWAYS BEEN MAINTAINED BY THE RUSSIAN BAYONETS. I don’t believe
those claims are substantiated. If the Russian army hadn’t been
there they would have been still cutting each other’s throats.
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Akhmed Zakaev |
Akhmed Zakaev, the deputy prime-minister of
Chechnya in 1999 (now in exile)
Sergei Ivanov, Defence Minister: …The terrorist must be
caught and tried
Alyona: My main thought then was:
give me the person responsible, and let me kill him with my own bare hands!
Akhmed Zakaev: Even if some Chechens who lost
their families during the first war were prepared
to do something like that, they would have chosen a totally
different target for their revenge, a legitimate one of sorts.
The FSB headquarters, the Interior Ministry or the General Staff...
I am certain the Russian public wouldn't have condemned
all of the Chechen people so unanimously.
There would have even been split in people’s reaction.
But the secret service was counting precisely
on the indignation of ordinary people who would demand:
"Punish the Chechens!"
That's why those buildings were chosen.
When the troops were sent into Chechnya,
Russian society had to be made look elsewhere
When Grozny was being showered with 5-ton bombs,
when women and children were being blown up,
the Russians were kept busy by alarms and overnight vigils
and were only concerned with a possible bomb in the basement
and not with the fate of mortals like themselves
who were being massacred somewhere down in the south...
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Yuri Luzhkov |
Yuri Luzhkov, the Mayor of Moscow
We've got an uprising on our hands!
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Sergei Shoigu |
Sergei Shoigu, the Minister for Emergencies
This is just an ordinary routine job.
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Nikolai Patrushev |
Nikolai Patrushev, the Director of the FSB
That wasn't an explosion, first of all.
Secondly, it wasn't prevented. Well,
our people weren't quite spot on...
It was an exercise. And there was
sugar in the sacks, not explosives.
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Sergei Kirienko |
Sergei Kirienko, the Prime Minister in 1998
The State admits
that it is unable to pay its debts.
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Boris Yeltsin |
Boris Yeltsin, the President of Russia until
Dec. 1999
I am not going!
I am not resigning!
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Evgeni Primakov |
Evgeni Primakov, the Prime Minister in 1998
Harsh measures are required,
and these will be implemented.
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Yuri Skuratov |
Yuri Skuratov, Prosecutor General in 1998
Don’t expect the fight against corruption to be selective!
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Vladimir Putin |
Vladimir Putin, Director of the FSB in 1998,
the Prime Minister in 1999, currently the President of Russia.
Where are these casualties?
That's all the propaganda
of bandits and terrorists.
There are only a few isolated cases.
And besides, some died
not from shelling,
but rather from, well, hard conditions
or that sort of thing...
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Vladimir Rushailo |
Vladimir Rushailo, the Minister of Interior
in 1999
The evidence of an improvement
in our work is the prevention of the explosion
at a building in Ryazan.
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Alexander Zdanovich |
Alexander Zdanovich, head of PR Center of the
FSB in 1999,
currently deputy chairman of RTR Russian State TV network
During exercises we use all
our available means and forces...
Don't smile like that. You've asked
a question, listen to the answer!
So... I was saying that
we use secret agents
and we never show them.
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